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re: senseofsanity
I believe that Juan and Lolis had a better relationship because they could both rely on each other strengths that they do not have. They are also married so it makes a little bit more sense if they got along better, but then again that is not always necessarily true
The married couple in both of the novels do foil ezch like Jaclewis said Min and Ajima both foil each other to fill in the cracks in each others relationship with one another pride and humbleness and impatient and patience. Juan and his wife Lolis are also foil character and Lolis is independant and juan is very go with the flow.
RE: Bekaboo89
Their drives were different because of the forms of art and mediums they used Juan wanted to learn about more forms of art therefore motivating him to be more experienced in different types of art. Unlike Juan tree-ear only motive was to improve in pottery and did so in secret never thinking about other forms of art.
RE: Juliannarenee72
I do believe it to be rather deceptive but cunning use what you can now and improve when they are willing to teach you later. If they see how much you really want to do something you love seeing them do they would probably inspired to help.
Tree-ear and Juan both start off in the lowest class of society. Tree-ear an orphan and Juan a slave. Juan had already been surrounded by art because he was a slave at a nice well off family in spain but does not fully grasp art until he becomes Diego’s slave and stayed in his studio finally grasping the arts his desires to grasp the art is what compelled him to be part of his masters world which ultimately happens for him when he is freed and is free to paint and be an assistant to his master and good friend.While Tree-ear a lowly orphan beggar starts off by sneaking peeks at mins work and slowly admiring it and then eventually he become attached to min a master potter and his art making him want to do pottery which he does in secret from his master as Juan did too. Instead of becoming an assistant to Min like Juan did with diego he became his some and achieved his dream of doing pottery. Why do you think they wanted to become part of their masters world of art? Why did they do their art in secret?
I agree with loiswazhere that art was valued in both of the novels and both of the authors had great appreciation for the beautiful artifacts. The behind story of paintings were also presented as accurate and gave us a more in depth look instead of just looking and saying it was just a picture. All pictures have a story or flowing emotion behind it. I also agree that the authors really brought the novels to life by using real historical artifacts.
RE: slogger
To answer your question I do not think that Juan would even be in the picture but rather he would just be a slave like any other just to serve their master, but juan became friends with diego and a beautiful painting and story came with it.
Art is everywhere in these two novels and plays an important role in the main characters lives. In the novel A Single Shard, pottery was not just used for household chores or for storage but rather an actual piece of art. Tree- ear the main protagonist in a single shard was not allowed to even make a pot because he was not the son of Min. Likewise, Juan in the I, Juan de Pereja he was not allowed to paint because he was a slave and was not freed. Society back in those times did not allow them to paint and restricted other freedoms. The themes of these books are alike in that they had to work and accomplish their dreams to be artist.In both novels they both show important pieces of art like Thousand Cranes Vase from a single shard and the Pope Innocent X. I believe the authors chose these pieces of art is because of what is represents like how the Pope innocent X represents how important the church was back then and Thousand crane vase because of how important it is today in Korea. What if Juan never existed or was never free to paint? Why did they associate laws or restrict things from people due to their social status’?
Hockeydude8, I agree with you, just as you pointed out the community in the giver was going nowhere because no one knows what real feelings are and no memories of the past that they can learn and move forward from. Memories is represented throughout the novels as very significant like in The Giver it shows how they should move on from the past and head forward to the future and in The Westing Games to solve the mysterious “death†of Mr. Sam Westing.
Jacclewis, for instance in The Westing Games when Turtle had to cut her hair it represented a definite sign of maturity. Turtle or T.R. Wexler went from being a shin kicking girl to a wonderful business woman who took responsibility for the bombs. In The Giver, when Jonas’s number is skipped and when he is announced the receiver of memory he learns that when he was placed with this job that he must grow up and mature.
In the Giver, Lowry shows a world of no feelings, no colors, and a fantasy of “perfection”. Jonas sees through the fantasy of the “perfection” established by the community and is brought into the real world through the giver. Likewise, in The Westing Games, Sam Westing is in charge of the fantasy in this game. The fantasy that Sam Westing set up a game of the mystery to find his heir and his “killerâ€. Reality is that Sam Westing is actually the culprit himself stealing his own identity to see who was the most capable of being the heir. I definitely believe that Lowry and Raskin both used the fact the fantasy vs. realism in their novels to show the characters the truth behind the power in the novels do what they do. What are some examples of fantasy vs. realism represented in the novels?
