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Member@Tannafernow17
I believe Jane falls in love with Rochester because he is sensitive, intelligent, and most importantly because he is the only man outside her kin she has ever really spoken to and spent quality time with. Luckily, Jane can tolerate being ordered around and is sensible enough to know that Rochester’s emotional vissitudes are not her faultsenseofsanity
Member@Julianarenee
Mr. Rochester is mysterious in that he claims to be hyper-observan, having ‘a quick eye and ear’. Rochester interrogates Jane at every given oppurtunity to try and reveal her deepest encasements. He is emphatically manipulative towards Jane especially in Chapter XX, when Rochester attempts to scrutinize all of Jane’s actions and reactions to uncover her feelings towards Rochester’s potential marriage to Mary Ingram.senseofsanity
MemberFrom a superficial viewpoint, Mr. Rochester could be presumed awkward and mean; however, with further knowledge on the ordeals which shaped his character up until the point he encounters Jane allow the reader to understand Rochester’s character in relation to Jane with less ambiguity. Perhaps the most life changing obstacle Rochester faced was the betrayal of his most prized love interest, Celene Varens. In devoting his undivided loyalty and efforts, Rochester made himself vulnerable to Celene Varens as he trusted her to return the affection. Unfortunately, Celene Varens betrayed her deepest admirer, disintegrating his emotional stability thereof. Although with recieving Rochester’s backround information a reader may percieve him as pathetic or grudge-holding, Jane finds him sensitive, intriguing, and unpredictable unlike the cruelty and monotony often shown to her. Perhaps the author emphasizes ROchester’s role in the book to add a sort of kindled interest to relieve Jane’s monotony and to build on this new intrigue to the apex of the story.
What other occurances in Rochester’s backround equivilate to his ever-swaying demeanor during his encounters with Jane?
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MemberHow is Helen a foil to Jane?
Helen is a foil to Jane in that she is wiser, older, more pious, etc. Most starkly contrasting, Helen’s view of God opposes Jane’s to the extreme. Helen’s assessment of God consists of His mercy, love, perfection, and fatherhood, whereas, Jane sees God as the omniscient castigator of mankind, filled with wrath.senseofsanity
MemberHow does John Reed reflect Jane’s view of men as emotionally detached, harsh and overly punitive?
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MemberJane Eyre, as an extremely profoud character,often contemplates the dispositions and antics of surrounding people. Especially concerning girls akin to herself, Jane always analyzes personalities and compares them to herself. Such scrutiny of females documented in Jane Eyre may be due to the fact that a woman wrote it and adds her insight which is derived from a female way of thinking.
Contrary to the elaborate portrayal of women in this novel, the only men listed are emotionally detached, harsh, and overly punitive. Perhaps this allude to the author’s view of men manifested in Jane’s character.senseofsanity
MemberRE: Beckaboo
I think without knowing future turmoils that people could definitely have lived their lives with more leisure and less anxiety. Perhaps if the oracles had not predicted such horrible things, they would not have occured in the first place.senseofsanity
MemberIn Greek mythology, oracles are often used to portray characters’ destiny and fate. In addition, the concept of infallible prediction being involved within each story’s plotline allows for a solidified, absolute truth in each tale. This may have supported the ideology of mythology in that people would be more inclined to believe in such stories if they had a claimed value of destiny incorporated with them. What is another reason as to why oracles would be neccessary to each stoy in mythology?
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MemberRE: jacclewis
Another character in greek mythology with a single major flaw is Hercules. Given the combination of his super-human strength and passionate folly, Hercules was a slave of his violent temper and extreme mad rantssenseofsanity
MemberBalder was killed by a simple puncture wound to the heart as from being struck with the edge of a mistletoe. The myth’s author emphasized the idea of fate in this scene in that the wound would not have had a lethal impact if it was not destined that Baldar should die at that moment. Likewise, Achilles’ death resulted from an arrow’s incision to his heel which also alludes back to Achille’s destiny to die during the battle. In both scenarios, the authors imply that invincibilty always comes second to the destiny of fate. In what other situations is this concept emphasized?
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MemberRE: Sarahsampow
I do not think that the static characters significantly matured throughout their lives. From their sisters’ perspective, they lived fairy tale lives and were saturated in naivety.senseofsanity
MemberRE: Beckaboo859
I think that by Sarah Louise trying to provide for her family and force herself to live on the island was a setback in her maturity, rather. The island had nothing to offer her, and she refused to let go of her grudges and misery at that point of her life.senseofsanity
MemberIn Kira-Kira, Katie grew up when she realized her role model had physically died; however, her sister’s example had perished with her friendship with Amber
In Jacob Have I Loved, by the end of the novel, Sarah Louise had finally come to realize that the island whereupon she had suffered overwhelming negligence had absolutely nothing to offer her, she needed to get away and persue adulthood. All in all, she needed to forget her miserable childhood. What would happen if Sarah Louise never grew out of the jealousy towards her sister?senseofsanity
MemberRE: Beckaboo859
In both scenarios, the role model, impeccable sisters may have envied their less important sisters because they had less responsibilty and less of a crowd to spectate and judge them! They, unlike their heroic sisters, would be bypassed by society for any flaw or mishap whereas Caroline and Lynn would be endlessly critcized. Therefore, they may have coveted the more humble positions of their sisters’ lives.senseofsanity
MemberRE: Danilthorp
To elaborate on your answer to julianarenee’s question, I would like to add that Katie’s confusion was derived from her role model converting to an entirely new mindset, which Katie could not relate to. Therefore, she forgot her aspirations and motivation for a period of time and replaced this with subtle jealously for her seemingly perfect older sister.senseofsanity
MemberIn Kira-Kira, Katie harnesses emnity towards her gravely ill sister due to the fact that the entire family’s lives revolved around Lynn, and Katie felt like she had no freedom or attention. Katie finally unleashes her deep seeded hostility when Lynn’s infant-like requests became overwhelming for Katie, so she exploded and hurt her sister by saying something along the lines of wishing she was never born. In Jacob Have I Loved, Sarah Louise’s plots for revenge backfired when the love of her life married her sister and her parents had basically admitted that they loved her sister more than her. Her jealously and hate ricocheted when Sarah Louise was left with no where to turn, but to simply get awat from her life of grief and start over in an entirely new state. What would have happened differently if Sarah would have stayed on the island with her parents?
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MemberRE: Slogger 17
In Kira-Kira, Lynn’s fatal disease was derived from an immune system infirmity paired with anemia. Typically, anemia is the derivative of the combination of an emotionally fragile girl muddled with the social pressure on young girls to be impeccably beautiful! Perhaps if Lynn had been a boy, she would not have been so deeply constrained to have a perfect model-thin figure; therefore, Lynn, being urged with society’s expectations for young men, would not have been concerned with her body, and would not have acquired anemia in the first place. Without the threat of anemia, a lethal disease like lymphoma would not have had such easy access to take away her life! This would have changed the entire course of the story in that Lynn’s death was the climax of the plotline and gave way to Katie’s sudden maturity progression. All in all, if Lynn never jeopardized her health in the first place and died, Katie would still remain a child, always relying on the example of her seemingly perfect sister.senseofsanity
MemberRE: Noreensmiles
To address the question itself, I believe that Sarah Louise did respect Caroline in that she envied her reputation, accomplishments, effortless beauty, etc… In my opinion, the act of jealously requires one to respect and admire another in some way. In a more correct sense, your question should refer to the effects of what might have happened if Sarah Louise left her admiration for Caroline at simply respecting her sister instead of being viciously jealous of her.senseofsanity
MemberIn Jacob Have I loved and Kira-Kira, the main characters’ sisters were depicted as role-model worthy, successful girls who in some way or another were looked up to by their admiring or envious sisters. Also, the emotions of the novels’ featured sisters revolves upon the attitudes and actions of their static and consistent sisters.
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MemberI believe these authors made clear cases to support the famed quote which states, “History teaches us that history teaches us nothing”- Georg Hegel. In other words, there is a recurring theme in these stories wherein society’s discrimination against certain backrounds or nationalities hindered potentially brilliant people from following their dreams. The fact of the matter is, these books were written as to have occured several centuries ago, in realistic cultures as if the plotline could actually take place. At the same time, discrimination, as it was a major issue centuries ago, is still an immense crisis to this day. Henceforth, the ‘over-arching’ theme of this book is society’s obstructive discrimination holding back child prodigies, much less, people in general, from fulfilling their full potential.
The moral in common is that society should never promote inequality is it is an impediment to cultural growth.
How do you feel these characters could have lived different lives if they were not burdened with stereotypical identities?
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