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@ashleyfabella I just think there wouldn’t be any life lessons and Arthur wouldn’t have super awesome tales to tell of becoming a fish and stuff.
@kirarobbins I think 1) people would still find a way to start wars and find hate for things/people/etc. 2) I think there would be more tension if there wasn’t pointless hate and war because than actual hate and actual war would break out. Or ya know it would be peaceful and great and full of rainbows. It could probs go either way.
I’m not going to lie but when I was reading all the comments and quotes, a lot of them were focused on saying this quote is exactly like Arthur’s life and his destiny, but tbh is it actually? I mean for one, the whole novel is not just about Arthur. You have The four brothers, and Lancealot and Merlyn and many others who had just as big a part impacting you as Arthur did. At the beginning Arthur was just a kid who followed around a strong brother (ish) figure who wasn’t soups nice to him and then met an old magician who taught him life lessons by turning him into different animals. He then all of the sudden pulled out a sword from a stone and then became king. Later on he struggled with the thoughts of war and laws and resulted in a man who had gained a whole nation but lost a whole part of himself in the process. I think that the quote doesn’t really have much to do with Arthur at all because when reading the quote it sounded like a man being told to do something that everyone else was doing but inside he wanted to still do what he was doing. Arthur wasn’t being told to do anything (One of which was because he was king) but also he made the decisions (when he was king) on his own (most of the time). The man from the quote was being told to do something, went along with it but still cared and wanted to do what he was already doing. I don’t see the similarities between the quote and the book and if I am supposed to, whoops I tried. I think the quote is a false statement and the book is on a whole other level of what White tried to get across to his readers.
@dmcluckey I do think him thinking he was holy made him a better knight because he was very based off of his religion and one of the reasons he wasn’t going with Guenever right away because he thought if he slept with her then his strength would lessen and he would become weaker.
@sarahjwilcox I do think Guenever had something to do with Lancealot’s self discovery because she was his lover and she also was kind of controlling when he finally went away and tried to take a step back from her.
The protagonist in this story did not find a deeper sense of nature, in fact most of them loss a little of themselves. Lancealot did gain something he was seeking. He was seeking to be the most powerful and greatest knight in all of England, and he did, but to get there he had to lose so much of himself that by the end he was so lost and just not himself like we first saw. And Arthur he kind of had a pretty sucky life to begin with but then he became king but then his wife and his best friend cheated on him, he fell for Morgause’s magic and he lost a lot of sense in himself.He gained the whole world but lost his whole soul. At what cost did these men have to go through in order to get what they got at their peak and what ended up of the two. It is pretty depressing actually.In today’s society self-discovery comes to each person depending on their life choices. You can find yourself easily or it can be a tough and hard road. IN some cases you may never find yourself and that can be pretty depressing. Also self-discovery will almost always come at a cost and those willing to sacrifice something will in return potentially find what they are looking for in themselves, but those not willing to sacrifice could have a very difficult time finding themselves.
@serrato1 I think Merlyn is the most comical because most old guys who happen to be magicians and live alone are pretty funny, I guess, I don’t really know because I’ve never met one in real life, but he seems like a humorous character.
@dmcluckey humor can be used for fun moments or awkward moment because writing can get awkward and humor just sort of relieves the awkward vibes or it can just be plain out used for fun because it eases such harsh and depressed parts in a story.
OKay so for humor i fell like Merlyn carries out a lot of the humor in the book because he just kind of a funny and wise character mix. When Wart first met Merlyn and entered his house and sitting to eat breakfast, Merlyn asked if Wart had ever drawn through a looking glass and a vanity glass appeared in his hand and he said, “Not that kind, you fool,’ “I want one big enough to shave in” ( White 28). I just thought of an old man saying that to himself or to his house and it was just kind of a you-have-to-smile-at-that kind of thing. I do think humor should be in classic literature because humor, suspense,tragedy, and action are key elements in keeping a story going and makes reading fun. I also think that the humor goes well with the story because one: I watched the BBC show Merlyn and that had humor in it and was based off of this story and it was a very great show. and two: for a story so like harsh is kind of eases the blows a little.
@sarahjwilcox I highly doubt Mordred would bond with his brothers one because that is a pretty huge age gap and two they come from different father’s meaning Mordred is half English and not full Gaelic like the four other brothers.
@dmcluckey i feel like Arthur’s decisions were based more off of what his tutor (Merlyn) taught him rather than Kay, but when they did I felt like they were a little more harsh and unforgiving and selfish, like Kay himself.
OKay well for starters, both set of brothers did not get along with one another. THey were like butting heads and were being total jerks and (spoilers) almost killed each other. Kay and Arthur (wart) they grew a little closer and bonded a bit more when they went a fought a griffin with Robin Hood and his gang. Yeah when Kay totes killed the griffin and Arthur broke his collarbone, but in the end they grew closer and throughout the rest of the book where Kay was mentioned they were somewhat better around and with each other. (If you catch what I’m sayin’) Ahh, and then there are the four brothers: Agravaine,Gawaine,Gareth, and Gaheris. They were quite a handful for interesting characters. For one and I think the worst of all, was they were going to kill a unicorn. (which they did, well Agravaine did all of it.) And they were just kind of jerky people. LIke Gawaine tried to kill his brother Agravaine who in turn pulled out a small knife on him. YEah they were cray. They did bond more however as they progressed as characters and with lots of dedication (this also goes for Kay and Arthur as well) they bonded and well they didn’t sing and hug it out, they grew closer as brothers and made it out okay in the end.
T.H.White I believe switched back and fourth between England and Orkney for two reasons. One to develop characters and two to tie in the rest of the story. LIke the four brothers became knights of the round table and Arthur and Morgause had a kid together, so yeah. Also it’s just a tad twisted of a tale but I mean White can’t fray to far off from the original story so switching back and fourth gave him one: a longer story to tell and two: kept things close to the original tale.
