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I think Bronte used color symbolism to foreshadow the events Jane will approach and the people she will meet.Charlotte Bronte populates the novel with female characters near the age of Jane to show diversity in the young girls. Each of the female characters are different in their own way. They are foil characters that help us understand the main character that is Jane. Helen Burns was the complete opposite of Jane, her views, and her thoughts were different. It was different following a girl’s life rather than a boys, and we can see how Jane Eyre was a different type of story as it is written from a girls view.
What do you think Charlotte Bronte was trying to say about the role of women in her society? How is this different from today?@Taylornicholas13 – I think mythologies views and ideas are so detail oriented because it makes it more believable. I think that more detail makes anything sound intriguing.
@Kirarobbins – I think we need explanations because we have many questions and thoughts that cannot be left unexplained. Every day we look for explanations even in the littlest things we still wonder because we are all just curious.
I agree with ++ Myths explain the unexplained. They reveal our fate after death, and the reasons for crises or miracles, and other puzzles — and yet they retain and even encourage an aura of mystery. Myths also satisfy our need to understand the natural world; for example, they might state that a drought is caused by an angry deity. This purpose of mythology was especially important before the advent of modern science, which offered the Big Bang theory to replace creation myths, and it gave us the theory of evolution to supplant myths regarding the genesis of humanity. And yet, science creates its own mythology.
I think we mythologize because we are curious and we want to understand. We are curious on questions that are not easy to explain. We mythologize to satisfy our curious thinking. People believe in the Big Bang Theory because they wonder how things came to be. They take their thought, and make something to believe in. Every human was created with a sense of questioning like how things occur. People created stories and myths to explain the unexplainable.
-How can we separate the myths from what is actually true? Do you think that people today go and read mythology to get answers on the unexplainable?@taylornicholas13, Merlyn taught Arthur most of the stuff he knew. He taught him what was right and what was wrong. I don’t think Arthur would have been the man he was without the guidance of Merlyn. Arthur grew up to be a mature King and he began to think for himself.
@dchin, I think it had such a serious tone because Arthur was heading to his last battle. In the end Arthur knew it was going to be his last battle and he reflects on the past and all that he has learned. The worst part was that he was going to battle against his son. The author made Book IV dark and serious because of all that was going on.
This quote from “The Goshawk” displays the whole novel and Arthurs life. This quote is all about destiny and the importance of it. Arthur was supposed to be Kays squire before he was king. He grew up interested in adventures and Merlyn guided him through these. Merlyn knew Arthurs destiny and his values even before Arthur did. When Arthur pulled the sword out of the stone he found his destiny. Merlyn knew that Arthur was not destined to be a squire, but to be a king. This quote describes this novel in a great way. It shows how sometimes what your destined to be, may not be what your assigned to be at first. Merlyn’s guidance helped shape Arthur and made him understand the real meanings of life. In the last battle Arthur looked back on all that he has learned since he was a child. If he wasn’t king, all that Merlyn had taught him, would have been useless.
What do you think would be different if Arthur never met Merlyn?@taylornicholas13, I think a lot of people even today seek for attention to try and get noticed by others. Arthur and his cousins seek for attention to be praised by others. Arthur’s cousins killed the unicorn to get praise from their mother and Arthur and Kay just always wanted to make their father proud. Because of mans greediness, I think in the future this might bring tension.
@alexharakas, I think his deepest regret is his affair with Guenever. Especially being that Arthur is his best friend, and that he has been hiding this secret for awhile. He should get Guenever out of his life to remove the temptations. He should also tell Arthur and own up to his mistakes. Instead of being tempted, he should continue seeking for his identity.
@amelia152016, I agree with @alexharakas. It was not selfish because it wasn’t true love and Elaine tricked him into having the child. But I think he should take responsibility because he is still the child’s father no matter what. He should at least make an effort to be in the child’s life.
As a child Lancelot was a “holy boy” and turned out to be one of the best knights. Lancelot goes on many quests in Book III, but the most important quest was a quest seeking for self-knowledge. He may not have known he was on this quest, but he experienced many trials that lead him to accomplishing this quest. It may not have been that easy, but finding your identity isn’t always easy. This is the same in our own society. Finding yourself can be tough, but it always takes time until you discovery yourself. For Lancelot, it took time and he eventually found himself through the adventures and trials he has faced. One trial he faced was when he fell in love with Arthur’s wife, Guenever. Lancelot always admired Arthur and he didn’t want to hurt him. But his love for Guenever was too strong. Lancelot went on many quest trying to distract himself from his feelings. This led him to sleeping with Elaine and they ended up having a child. Another trial he faced was when he went insane and lost his identity. Becoming a wild man did not help him in finding himself. Lancelot expressed his feelings not thinking if it would hurt someone he cares about. It was hard for him to make others happy and make himself happy at the same time. I feel like in our society we can be pressured by others and be knocked off our path on our way to finding out who we are.
Do you think Guenever was the reason he didn’t truly find his identity or was it because of himself?@dchin, I think Book I had more humor. Because Book I emphasized on their childhood. So it was more fun, light hearted, and less stressful. Arthur was not king yet, he was just a young boy. Book I was kind of an intro leading on to Arthur’s position as king. After Book I it got more serious and dark.
@amelia52016, no I think he made it dark for a reason. In some instances maybe he should have made it “lighter” to bring up the mood. But I think he made it dark to set the tone and the story that he was going to tell.
T.H. White uses humor throughout this story. White gives the character’s humor to make this quite serious story, even more entertaining. For example, in Book I chapter VII, Sir Grummore challenges King Pellinore to a joust. Their battle is a humorous one. They insult and try to fight each other but it doesn’t work out. They charge at each other and they miss and hit a tree. They wake up and soon become friends. This example of White using humor in the characters bring a little fun into this serious story. Even though White made this story serious, he put humor here and there to lighten up the mood. I like that White brought humor into the story because it made me want to keep reading it. I think stories should have a little humor in it, even in serious or sad stories, so that it can lighten up the mood. Yes, humor takes place in classic literature, even if it is not the humor now, it may have been the humor then. Humor is a great aspect in a story that can connect and engage people into the book.
Why do you think the tone of the story changes from humorous to more serious?@dchin, yes I do believe the author named the Orkney brothers on purpose. I think he named them all with a G except Agravaines because he is sort of the odd man out. He is the cruelest out of them all and he is usually the one not agreeing with the brothers. For example, he wanted to kill the unicorn while the others did not.
In The Once and Future King, Kay and Arthur had a great relationship as two brothers would have. They connected, but also had their difficulties. As an example, they both shared the love and interest in hawking. Throughout the novel they experience the adventures together and they both learned and lived with the presence of magic. Although they shared a great bond, they both had different personalities that balanced each other in a way. Arthur, once called Wart, was a kind, good hearted person while Kay, was a selfish, mean, and jealous person. Yet they had different personalities and had some difficulties in their relationship, they created a great bond. In addition, Agravaine, Gawaine, Gaheris, and Gareth had the same brotherly love as Kay and Arthur did. Although, they did fight more so then Kay and Arthur. For example, all four brothers loved their mother and just wanted to make her happy. To do so they decided to get her a unicorn. While they were trying to get their mother a unicorn they disagreed and fought weather to kill the unicorn or to bring it to their mother alive. Agravaine wanted to kill the unicorn while the others did not want such thing. Agravaine ended up killing the unicorn despite what his brothers had said. This shows the difficulties and the lack of agreement in their relationship. These two relationships had similar attributes but also had their differences. Kay and Arthurs relationship was more loving while Agravaine, Gawaine, Gaheris, and Gareths relationship was more brutal and what really connected the four brothers was making their mother happy. T.H. White organizes Book II to switch back and forth between England and Orkney to show the two sides in the war. T.H. White shows Arthur and Kays perspective, as well as the four brothers prospective. In the end of Book II the two kingdoms come together when King Arthur and Queen Morgause have a child named Mordred. Not knowing that they are related, Morgause is Arthur’s half-sister.
How does the tone change between the two books? Why do you think the author did this?
